Mark Reinhold mr at
Wed Mar 31 16:25:35 UTC 2010

> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 09:14:59 -0700
> From: Kevin Bourrillion <kevinb at>

> ...
> The problem is that classes like Pair simply go that much further to indulge
> the desire to never have to create any actual types of our own.  When we're
> forced to create our own types, we begin to model our data more appropriately,
> which I believe leads us to create good abstractions at broader levels of
> granularity as well.

I agree.  Java isn't Lisp.

- Mark

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