RFR (M): 8212657: Implementation of JDK-8204089 Timely Reduce Unused Committed Memory

Ruslan Synytsky synytskyy at jelastic.com
Thu Nov 15 17:10:45 UTC 2018

Hi guys, some new findings related to this topic. Previously we got a great
question from Stefan Johansson:

>> Another question, when
>> running in the cloud, what load is the user expecting us to compare
>> against, the overall system or the local container. I'm actually not
>> entirely sure what the getloadavg() call return in case of running in a
>> container.

> Good question! It depends on the used container technology. In short, if
it’s a system
> container then it shows the load of the container, if it’s an application
container then the
> load of the host machine. There is an article on a related topic

I found more details / info that will be useful for end users, there is a
quick summary:

   - VMs - the problem does not exist as JVM gets loadavg of the parent
   virtual machine it’s running in.
   - Containers
      - LXC - the problem does not exist, because LXCFS
      <https://github.com/lxc/lxcfs> is making Linux containers feel more
      like a virtual machine.
      - OpenVZ - the problem does not exist as every container has a
      virtualized view of /proc pseudo-filesystem
      - Docker and runC - by default loadavg will be provided from the host
      machine, which is a kind of problem for determining the real
load inside a
      container. However, the recent improvements in runC engine are
solving this
      issue: libcontainer: add /proc/loadavg to the white list of bind mount
      <https://github.com/opencontainers/runc/pull/1882>. Also there is a
      useful related article - LXCFS for Docker and K8S
      So, we can assume that this solution will be available by default in the
      near future.

Also, some kind of a quick summary / "a state of JVM elasticity":

   - G1 - the new options will be introduced soon:
*G1PeriodicGCInterval, **G1PeriodicGCSystemLoadThreshold,
   G1PeriodicGCInvokesConcurrent, *the work is in progress.
   - Shenandoah - the leading GC in terms of elasticity at the moment (my
   personal opinion). Available options: *ShenandoahUncommitDelay,
   - OpenJ9 - introduced special options: *IdleTuningGcOnIdle,
   IdleTuningCompactOnIdle, IdleTuningMinIdleWaitTime. *However, the
   uncommitment is not fully transparent for end users, as a result it's
   harder to track the real usage. The only way to measure the effect is to
   monitor resident memory size *RES* using *top*. Also it implements
   different approach for checking idle sate - based on
   *samplerThreadStateLogic.* For more details please check to this
   - ZGC - the work is in the progress, there is a quick patch
   to support releasing of memory back to the OS in ZGC. If you want to try
   it out, the patch should apply to the latest jdk/jdk tree. Use the new
   option *-XX:+ZReleaseUnusedHeap*. A more refined version of the patch
   will most likely be upstreamed at some point in the future.
   - Azul C4 - seems like it's scalable vertically too. I sent
   clarification request to Deputy CTO, but have not received any feedback so
   far, so it's unknown how exactly it works. If anyone can share his/her
   personal experience than will be useful.

Thanks everybody involved for moving this topic forward.
CEO @ Jelastic <https://jelastic.com/>
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