RFR: JDK-8220671: Initialization race for non-JavaThread PtrQueues

Per Liden per.liden at oracle.com
Tue Mar 19 09:25:44 UTC 2019


On 3/19/19 8:16 AM, Kim Barrett wrote:
>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 2:48 AM, Roman Kennke <rkennke at redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>> Ok, I think I have a fix candidate:
>>>> http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~rkennke/JDK-8220671/webrev.05/
>>>>
>>>> I added a method BS::needs_sts_sync_on_attach_detach() so that GCs
>>> can
>>>> avoid using this additional synchronization when they are not
>>>> implementing attach/detach or not using STS.
>>>>
>>>> This passes tier1 and the offending Shenandoah testcase locally. I
>>> will
>>>> push it through jdk/submit.
>>>>
>>>> What do you think? Can I get reviews on this? Or do you have
>>> something
>>>> better in mind?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Roman
>>>
>>> I think ZGC has the same race with the thread-local cache of the bad
>>> address mask.
>>
>> :-S
> 
> But Per thinks the non-Java threads still don’t use that value (they weren’t
> before, and that hasn’t changed, though might in the future?)

Right, the thread local bad mask is only used by Java threads. I don't 
foresee that non-Java threads will start using it.

> 
>>
>>> The needs_std_sync_on_attach_detach function seems to be just an
>>> optimization, that we should consider (or not) once we're confident we
>>> have a working solution.
>>>
>>> I don't think any GC presently needs anything done on the detach side.
>>
>> Not sure. We might miss the final flush() or rather end up flushing on the wrong side of a safepoint.
> 
> Note that very few NJTs ever exit at all.  And those which do are during process
> teardown, so not really relevant for global SATB active state change (for example).
> 
>>> Using the type of the thread was one idea I was exploring.  I was
>>> thinking about using is_ConcurrentGC_thread() though.  Note that some
>>> worker threads are ConcurrentGC threads.
>>
>> OK. Which concgc threads are worker threads too?
> 
> ZGC uses workgang threads configured as “concurrent”.  There’s an argument for
> workgang construction indicating whether the associated threads are concurrent
> or not.  I *think* there are others, but not in a position to search for them right now.

I kind of think that the notion of STW vs. Concurrent workers is kind of 
flawed, since workers can be both (as is the case in ZGC). It's more a 
property of the task being executed, rather than the threads.

cheers,
Per

> 
>>
>>> The problem we're trying to solve is that (some implementations of)
>>> on_thread_attach needs to be atomic with the associated list addition
>>> wrto safepoints, or more precisely, with an operation performed within
>>> some safepoints.  on_thread_attach is caching global state in the
>>> thread local data, while the operation is updating the global state
>>> and needs to also update the thread local caches.  For G1 and
>>> Shenandoah, it's the SATB activation state; for ZGC it's the bad bit
>>> mask.
>>>
>>> Possibilities I've been looking at are:
>>>
>>> (1) Conditional STS join around on_thread_attach / add_to_the_list.
>>> Still
>>> thinking about what the right conditional might be though.
>>
>> This seems the only one that works for me so far.
>>
>>> (2) Move on_thread_attach inside the NJTList_lock in add_to_the_list,
>>> and make the relevant GC operation also lock the NJTList_lock.  This
>>> would mean on_thread_attach is conditionally called with JNTList_lock
>>> held, depending on whether the thread is a Java thread or not; such
>>> conditional lock contexts can be difficult.
>>
>> I don't think this is sufficient. NJTList_lock does not coordinate with safe points like Threads_lock does, but we need that, otherwise the whole sequence races over safe points.
> 
> It’s not safepoints that matter, it’s the operation being done in a safepoint, like
> changing the SATB active state.  That’s the “relevant GC operation” that also
> has to lock the NJTList_lock.
> 
>>
>>> (3) I think the reason on_thread_attach preceeds adding to the list is
>>> to prevent SATB state verification from failing.  (Except that doesn't
>>> quite work because of this new-found race.)  So another approach is to
>>> reverse the order and address the verification failure directly.  Add
>>> another "unitialized" initial state.  SATB activation verification
>>> treats "uninitialized" as okay, and the activation state change
>>> unconditionally updates the thread state.  For on_thread_attach,
>>> conditionally set the thread state when the old state is
>>> "uninitialized", using cmpxchg to address the potential race between a
>>> global change and the initialization.  I think something similar could
>>> be done for ZGC.  But this is pretty tightly coupled to properties of
>>> the state being cached.
>>
>> This approach hasn't worked for me. It still races across safe points.
> 
> Again, don’t care about safepoints per se, it’s the interaction between
> on_thread_attach and changing the global SATB active state that matters.
> 


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