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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/6/12 9:52 PM, Srinivas
      Ramakrishna wrote:<br>
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      <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 5:11 AM, Bengt
        Rutisson <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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            I've changed the title of the JEP now. I'm not sure you
            think it is better, but it is at least what I had promised
            Jon. The new title is:<br>
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            "Remove GC Combinations that are not Used Enough to Warrant
            Future Support"
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          Or perhaps just simply "Retire some GC combinations", and say
          what you are saying above but not in the title.<br>
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    Thanks, Ramki! It turns out that I hadn't forgotten to update the
    title. Mark had just changed it when he published the JEP since he
    thought the title above was too long. So I was just sitting here
    trying to come up with a shorter and better title.<br>
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    I just updated the JEP title with your suggestion. :)<br>
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            <div class="im">I am thinking there may be "emdebbed" jvm's
              running in core/power-starved environments<br>
              <blockquote type="cite"> that might still find it useful.
                I agree that for desktop and server jvm's iCMS has
                probably outlived its useful life.<br>
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            I thought "embedded" were building with a very limited set
            of GC support and explicitly excluding all GCs except the
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          That's true of the "embedded" offering (thanks for the
          reminder). I was thinking more generically of the Jav SE
          offering being<br>
          used in what might be considered "embedded" settings (such as
          routers, network devices, switches, printers and so forth).<br>
          Not sure if there is such a market, or I am thinking of a
          phantom (insert appropriate Shakespeare quote here). <br>
          <blockquote type="cite"> I agree though that from the
            standpoint of server environments, less is probably better,
            given the complexity of maintaining<br>
            the various combinations.<br>
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          <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Yes, and there is also
            the issue of being able to test and verify the quality of
            the combinations. At the moment we have about 9 combinations
            but we only have resources to continuously test&nbsp; 3-4 of
            them. I feel very uncomfortable recommending customers to
            run untested GC combinations in production.<br>
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          Completely agree! I think this is a welcome step to keep the
          platform evolving with the times and shedding vestigial
          organs, as it were.<br>
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    Thanks, I genuinely believe it is a step in the right direction.<br>
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    Bengt<br>
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        <div>-- ramki<br>
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          <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Thanks for the
            feedback!<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
                Bengt</font></span>
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                <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 2:10 PM,
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                      href="http://openjdk.java.net/jeps/173"
                      target="_blank">http://openjdk.java.net/jeps/173</a><br>
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                        - Mark<br>
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