Proposal to revise forest graph and integration practices for JDK 9

Paul Sandoz Paul.Sandoz at
Wed Dec 4 01:38:08 PST 2013

On Dec 2, 2013, at 8:35 PM, Jonathan Gibbons <jonathan.gibbons at> wrote:

> On 12/01/2013 09:14 PM, Joe Darcy wrote:
>> We've found the "Continuous Delivery" book by Jez Humble and David Farley to be useful.
>> Some relevant quotes from the first chapter or two of that text:
>>> If It Hurts, Do It More Frequently, and Bring the Pain Forward
>>> "This is the most general principle on our list, and could perhaps best be described as a heuristic. But it is perhaps the most useful heuristic we know of in the context of delivering software, and it informs everything we say."
>>> Integration is often a very painful process.
>>> "If this is true of your project, integrate every time somebody checks in, and do it from the start of the project.
>>> If testing is a painful process that occurs just before release, don’t do it at the end. Instead, do it continually from the beginning of the project." 
> I like the term "Continuous Delivery" as compared to "Continuous Integration" since Integration is such as loaded term in our current infrastructure.
> I also like +100 the comment about testing ...

Also... continuous delivery of openjdk builds, preferably labeled with the changeset id corresponding to the tip of the build.

That will make it much easier for developers to verify a fix. I don't like saying "I have fixed the issue in tl, but you will have to wait a week or so until build XXX appears" (so "old skool") thus making it harder to spin faster and get feedback.


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