Concerns with JPMS spec and Jigsaw implementation
Tim_Ellison at uk.ibm.com
Fri Apr 28 15:48:43 UTC 2017
mark.reinhold at oracle.com wrote on 27/04/2017 21:02:09:
> 2017/4/14 20:18:03 -0700, Scott Stark <sstark at redhat.com>:
> > Via our participation in JSR 376/JPMS we have raised a number of
> > regarding the implementation decision in Jigsaw as well as the scope
> > consensus of the expert group efforts. We, along with other EC
> > EG members have compiled a document that details these concerns. These
> > concerns are outlined in the following blog:
> > https://developer.jboss.org/blogs/scott.stark/2017/04/14/critical-
> This document does not raise any substantive technical issues that have
> already been discussed in the JSR 376 EG.
I believe that document demonstrates there is still work required to bring
community closer to an agreement on the proposed standard.
Even where the technical issues have already been discussed in the EG, it
incumbent upon this group to make best efforts to understand and resolve
differences. If people feel that their argument has not been considered,
it is not surprising that frustration ensues.
I am personally disappointed that the move to call the Public Review
was made despite explicit objection from a number of EG members.
> > As it stands, Red Hat will not vote for the approval of this public
> > draft of JPMS as it is not in the best interest of the Java community.
IBM is also voting "no" which reflects our position that the JSR is not
this time to move beyond the Public Review stage and proceed to Proposed
The JSR 376 Expert Group and the public have raised a number of reasonable
and concerns with the current public review draft of the specification
warrant further discussion and resolution. We advocate work continuing
all members of the Expert Group to address the issues documented on the
IBM would like to see closer consensus amongst the entire Expert Group
this specification proceeds to the next step.
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