From Ulf.Zibis at gmx.de  Thu May 27 14:52:58 2010
From: Ulf.Zibis at gmx.de (Ulf Zibis)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 23:52:58 +0200
Subject: [69cat] Re: Re: [www] where is
	http://netbeans.org/projects/nb-openjdk/index.html
In-Reply-To: <4BEDA7D6.3050408@gmx.de>
References: <4BECCDDA.9050006@Sun.COM> <4BEDA430.4050305@sun.com>
	<4BEDA7D6.3050408@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <4BFEE9BA.2030902@gmx.de>

Hi,

are there any news ?
IIRC there have been valuable additional informations on 
http://netbeans.org/projects/nb-openjdk/index.html.

Thanks,

Ulf


Am 14.05.2010 21:43, schrieb Ulf Zibis:
> Am 14.05.2010 21:27, schrieb Geertjan Wielenga:
>> Irina Filippova wrote:
>>> Honza Pirek answered Ulf's question on another alias.
>>> Just forwarding his response to the NetCat team.
>>
>> Maybe this: http://openjdk.java.net/groups/nb-projects/
>
> Thanks Geertjan.
> I know this link, but on 
> http://netbeans.org/projects/nb-openjdk/index.html was additional 
> information some months ago.
>
> -Ulf
>
>
>
>>
>> Gj
>>>
>>> - Irina
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 
>>>
>>>
>>> Subject:
>>> Re: Broken link to http://netbeans.org/community/projects/ at 
>>> http://netbeans.org/projects/nb-openjdk/index.html
>>> From:
>>> jan pirek <Jan.Pirek at Sun.COM>
>>> Date:
>>> Tue, 11 May 2010 15:41:29 +0200
>>> To:
>>> ulfzibis at netbeans.org
>>>
>>> To:
>>> ulfzibis at netbeans.org
>>> CC:
>>> NetBeans Webmaster <webmaster at netbeans.org>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello Ulf,
>>> I have bad news for you - project nb-openjdk does not exist at 
>>> current website. I am also not sure it was migrated when we switched 
>>> to current netbeans.org infrastructure, and I am afraid it's www 
>>> content was dumped.
>>>
>>> jan
>>>
>>> On May 7, 2010, at 8:36 PM, ulfzibis at netbeans.org wrote:
>>>
>>>> Where are the tutorials etc. to build OpenJDK with netbeans?
>>>> Was:  http://netbeans.org/projects/nb-openjdk/index.html
>>>>
>>>> -Ulf
>>>>
>>>> ----
>>>> Submitted via the contact form at: 
>>>> http://www.netbeans.info/appl2/index.php
>>>> Referer page: http://netbeans.org/community/projects/
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>


From jonathan.gibbons at oracle.com  Thu May 27 15:34:26 2010
From: jonathan.gibbons at oracle.com (Jonathan Gibbons)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 15:34:26 -0700
Subject: [69cat] Re: Re: [www] where is
	http://netbeans.org/projects/nb-openjdk/index.html
In-Reply-To: <4BFEE9BA.2030902@gmx.de>
References: <4BECCDDA.9050006@Sun.COM>
	<4BEDA430.4050305@sun.com>	<4BEDA7D6.3050408@gmx.de>
	<4BFEE9BA.2030902@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <4BFEF372.8030302@oracle.com>

Ulf,

There are NetBeans projects for parts of jdk in the openjdk jdk/ 
repository, under jdk/make/netbeans.  However, these are probably quite 
crufty by now; I do not think anyone is maintaining them.  Some JDK 
developers just roll their projects for the purpose of editing code, and 
they use the standard JDK build system to build and run their code.

One big exception is langtools, which contains javac, javadoc etc.   
There is a NetBeans project for langtools in langtools/make/netbeans, 
and we routinely use this project for working on the langtools source.  
That being said, although I edit in NetBeans, I still prefer to build 
and run the regression tests from outside NetBeans.

-- Jon


On 05/27/2010 02:52 PM, Ulf Zibis wrote:
> Hi,
>
> are there any news ?
> IIRC there have been valuable additional informations on 
> http://netbeans.org/projects/nb-openjdk/index.html.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ulf
>
>
> Am 14.05.2010 21:43, schrieb Ulf Zibis:
>> Am 14.05.2010 21:27, schrieb Geertjan Wielenga:
>>> Irina Filippova wrote:
>>>> Honza Pirek answered Ulf's question on another alias.
>>>> Just forwarding his response to the NetCat team.
>>>
>>> Maybe this: http://openjdk.java.net/groups/nb-projects/
>>
>> Thanks Geertjan.
>> I know this link, but on 
>> http://netbeans.org/projects/nb-openjdk/index.html was additional 
>> information some months ago.
>>
>> -Ulf
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Gj
>>>>
>>>> - Irina
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Subject:
>>>> Re: Broken link to http://netbeans.org/community/projects/ at 
>>>> http://netbeans.org/projects/nb-openjdk/index.html
>>>> From:
>>>> jan pirek <Jan.Pirek at Sun.COM>
>>>> Date:
>>>> Tue, 11 May 2010 15:41:29 +0200
>>>> To:
>>>> ulfzibis at netbeans.org
>>>>
>>>> To:
>>>> ulfzibis at netbeans.org
>>>> CC:
>>>> NetBeans Webmaster <webmaster at netbeans.org>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hello Ulf,
>>>> I have bad news for you - project nb-openjdk does not exist at 
>>>> current website. I am also not sure it was migrated when we 
>>>> switched to current netbeans.org infrastructure, and I am afraid 
>>>> it's www content was dumped.
>>>>
>>>> jan
>>>>
>>>> On May 7, 2010, at 8:36 PM, ulfzibis at netbeans.org wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Where are the tutorials etc. to build OpenJDK with netbeans?
>>>>> Was:  http://netbeans.org/projects/nb-openjdk/index.html
>>>>>
>>>>> -Ulf
>>>>>
>>>>> ----
>>>>> Submitted via the contact form at: 
>>>>> http://www.netbeans.info/appl2/index.php
>>>>> Referer page: http://netbeans.org/community/projects/
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>


From Ulf.Zibis at gmx.de  Thu May 27 16:49:15 2010
From: Ulf.Zibis at gmx.de (Ulf Zibis)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 01:49:15 +0200
Subject: [69cat] Re: Re: [www] where
	is	http://netbeans.org/projects/nb-openjdk/index.html
In-Reply-To: <4BFEF372.8030302@oracle.com>
References: <4BECCDDA.9050006@Sun.COM>	<4BEDA430.4050305@sun.com>	<4BEDA7D6.3050408@gmx.de>	<4BFEE9BA.2030902@gmx.de>
	<4BFEF372.8030302@oracle.com>
Message-ID: <4BFF04FB.2040909@gmx.de>

Am 28.05.2010 00:34, schrieb Jonathan Gibbons:
> Ulf,
>
> There are NetBeans projects for parts of jdk in the openjdk jdk/ 
> repository, under jdk/make/netbeans.  However, these are probably 
> quite crufty by now; I do not think anyone is maintaining them.  Some 
> JDK developers just roll their projects for the purpose of editing 
> code, and they use the standard JDK build system to build and run 
> their code.

Thanks Jon.
Yes, this is a very sad situation.
I don't understand, why there is so few cross-support between JDK and 
NetBeans at Sun/Oracle. It would be a good demonstration having NetBeans 
capable to develop their own products.

Additionally on Windows it's very sad, that even very simple make 
targets always refer to C-compiler (MS VS) which I don't have, even if 
no C-compile is needed.

-Ulf


>
> One big exception is langtools, which contains javac, javadoc etc.   
> There is a NetBeans project for langtools in langtools/make/netbeans, 
> and we routinely use this project for working on the langtools 
> source.  That being said, although I edit in NetBeans, I still prefer 
> to build and run the regression tests from outside NetBeans.
>
> -- Jon
>
>
> On 05/27/2010 02:52 PM, Ulf Zibis wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> are there any news ?
>> IIRC there have been valuable additional informations on 
>> http://netbeans.org/projects/nb-openjdk/index.html.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ulf
>>
>>
>> Am 14.05.2010 21:43, schrieb Ulf Zibis:
>>> Am 14.05.2010 21:27, schrieb Geertjan Wielenga:
>>>> Irina Filippova wrote:
>>>>> Honza Pirek answered Ulf's question on another alias.
>>>>> Just forwarding his response to the NetCat team.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe this: http://openjdk.java.net/groups/nb-projects/
>>>
>>> Thanks Geertjan.
>>> I know this link, but on 
>>> http://netbeans.org/projects/nb-openjdk/index.html was additional 
>>> information some months ago.
>>>
>>> -Ulf
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Gj
>>>>>
>>>>> - Irina
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Subject:
>>>>> Re: Broken link to http://netbeans.org/community/projects/ at 
>>>>> http://netbeans.org/projects/nb-openjdk/index.html
>>>>> From:
>>>>> jan pirek <Jan.Pirek at Sun.COM>
>>>>> Date:
>>>>> Tue, 11 May 2010 15:41:29 +0200
>>>>> To:
>>>>> ulfzibis at netbeans.org
>>>>>
>>>>> To:
>>>>> ulfzibis at netbeans.org
>>>>> CC:
>>>>> NetBeans Webmaster <webmaster at netbeans.org>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Ulf,
>>>>> I have bad news for you - project nb-openjdk does not exist at 
>>>>> current website. I am also not sure it was migrated when we 
>>>>> switched to current netbeans.org infrastructure, and I am afraid 
>>>>> it's www content was dumped.
>>>>>
>>>>> jan
>>>>>
>>>>> On May 7, 2010, at 8:36 PM, ulfzibis at netbeans.org wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Where are the tutorials etc. to build OpenJDK with netbeans?
>>>>>> Was:  http://netbeans.org/projects/nb-openjdk/index.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Ulf
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----
>>>>>> Submitted via the contact form at: 
>>>>>> http://www.netbeans.info/appl2/index.php
>>>>>> Referer page: http://netbeans.org/community/projects/
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>