High performance text component
Pedro Duque Vieira
pedro.duquevieira at gmail.com
Wed Sep 5 18:02:50 PDT 2012
Yes I have read that a while back, but there was no explanation what makes
this "Div" not suitable for a general purpose container and from what
Felipe just said it makes me think that this container as even more things
in common with an HTML DIV than I was thinking before, like the text inside
wrapping. So my comments are kind of a reaction to the latest writings from
the JavaFX personnel.
Thanks for pointing that out even so, Daniel, Cheers,
On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 5:58 PM, Daniel Zwolenski <zonski at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey Pedro,
> I think you might want to read back through this topic for the thoughts on
> On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Pedro Duque Vieira <
> pedro.duquevieira at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I also wonder this "Div" seems to have a lot in common with the DIV from
>> HTML. Could this be the base work for having a DIV in JavaFX? This could
>> interesting for web developers who don't know a whole lot of programming
>> and also in supporting some other features of CSS and in consequence being
>> able to migrate techniques already existing on the web to a Java app. Also
>> "Span" seems to have some commonalities with the SPAN from HTML.
>> I imagine there will be some challenges like the overflow property of DIVs
>> and some other things.. so I really don't know how much work/effort would
>> it take to have something that is not entirely on the "philosophy" of the
>> core of JavaFX.
>> Just my 2 cents..
>> On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Pedro Duque Vieira <
>> pedro.duquevieira at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On 9/5/2012 9:10 AM, Richard Bair wrote:
>> >> >>>> Felipe, we should update the documents on the WIKI to refer to the
>> >> "Rich Text API" instead of DOM API because I fear this can get
>> >> Other than those of us internally who have argued for / against the
>> >> Attributed String style vs. the DOM style, most people probably won't
>> >> the subtlety, having missed the context.
>> >> >>> Done,
>> >> >>> Should I rename Div to Paragraph, Span to Text ?
>> >> >> We already have 'Text'. Is this different or could we reuse what's
>> >> already there.
>> >> > That is an open question, although personally I would prefer that we
>> >> just reuse the Text object. We have to make sense of a Text placed in a
>> >> "Paragraph" anyway, even if we had a separate Span, so it seems more
>> >> sensible to just make Text make sense.
>> >> I'd also prefer to at least try to re-use Text and resort to a new
>> >> only if it we learn
>> >> through experience that its going to be to problematic.
>> >> >> Just checking: the 'Paragraph' isn't just a FlowPane with special
>> >> support for line wrapping text is it? I.e FlowPane.setWordWrapEnabled(
>> >> true).
>> >> > I imagine the implementation is completely different, and the spacing
>> >> etc parameters on FlowPane might not be sensible for a Paragraph.
>> Plus, it
>> >> is in the wrong package (we will need package private access to Text
>> >> internals).
>> >> I think its important to make clear that its not a general purpose
>> >> container,
>> >> and I can't imagine the maintainers of FlowPane want to have to learn
>> >> to break the text usage etc. And FlowPane supports vertical layout too,
>> >> which
>> >> is likely to be a tricky one and if we do vertical text layout even
>> >> I wouldn't bet on
>> >> it fitting well. So making it something different and putting it in
>> >> javafx.scene.text seems right.
>> >> BTW can I throw TextLayoutPane and RichTextPane into the mix as
>> >> names ..
>> >> -phil.
>> >> > Richard
>> > Hi,
>> > Just to clear things up in my head: why is it not a general purpose
>> > container? What's withholding it of being one?
>> > Thanks, best regards,
>> > --
>> > Pedro Duque Vieira
>> Pedro Duque Vieira
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