Text rendering on Windows
John C. Turnbull
ozemale at ozemail.com.au
Mon Aug 18 20:59:14 UTC 2014
Richard, I totally agree on the subjective nature of "font appreciation" but that's not really what I am highlighting here. What I am seeing is a difference between the quality of font rendering between JFX and native apps on the same machine with the same font etc. and the JFX rendering is definitely less sharp/black. Some may prefer that (not me) but the issue is that there *is* a difference.
On 18 Aug 2014, at 10:36 pm, Richard Bair <richard.bair at oracle.com> wrote:
>> I won't be able to get access to a Windows machine for another week or so but when I do I will gladly send you some screenshots. However, are you saying that this is the first time anyone has reported such a finding? There's no existing JIRA for this specific issue? I ask because even though people tell me I am super fussy with fonts and see things others just can't see, I have observed the stated discrepancy on *every* Windows machine I have tried with JFX 8 (about 4 quite different machines) so I would be very surprised if no one else notices a difference.
> It is really common for two font fussy people to disagree on which font rendering is “better” :-). We’ve also looked at various applications and it seems to be a mixture of different techniques (sometimes even within the same app!). For such things, it might be better to expose some kind of settings that lets the developer chose which font hinting they want to use or other settings. Just something to keep in mind.
> The other day I was doing some HTML (blah) and comparing the font rendering with another website. My fonts were dark and heavy, their fonts were light and stylish. The font was exactly the same. The weight was exactly the same. The style, variant, etc were all the same. The difference was '-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased;’. I don’t know if the two of us, given the same page and same rendering, would agree on which font looked nicer (maybe we would, maybe not, I really don’t know!).
> Which makes me think we probably need to expose some toggles so folks can tweak the characteristics to their liking.
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