Future of JavaFX

Markus KARG markus at headcrashing.eu
Tue Dec 1 17:34:32 UTC 2015

Speaking of promotion an VW, does it make the Golf an outdated car just because they stopped TV marketing in Germany because their sales is running quite well still? ;-)

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From: openjfx-dev [mailto:openjfx-dev-bounces at openjdk.java.net] On Behalf Of Tom Eugelink
Sent: Montag, 30. November 2015 22:53
To: openjfx-dev at openjdk.java.net
Subject: Re: Future of JavaFX

There indeed seems to be negative buzz around JavaFX, and Oracle stopping with promoting it, is indeed confusing, at the very least. And it is noticeable everywhere; without wanting to wine, I really do have a nice JavaFX / JFXtras presentation, but it being declined on all conferences for me is a signal about the interest of the community in JavaFX. And let's be honest, Oracle's whole "let's do cloud and forget there are companies doing this many many years already" U turn is not contributing to the mood as well.

OTOH, from what I hear VW has chosen to use JavaFX for it's in car systems. And I have just been on an interview for a traffic management system where they chose JavaFX over web based. So there also is adoption. But it will be slow. My gut says: give it time, and a bit of TLC promotionwise would not be bad.


On 30-11-2015 21:35, Florian Brunner wrote:
> I read this article as well some days ago. It has some very valid points, but
> all in all I think JavaFX is still the best option out there.
> That said I was quite surprised that I got confronted today with the very same
> article by colleagues of mine who are in charge with company-wide adoption of
> various technologies. They tend to agree with the article. Currently JavaFX is
> still just on our technology radar, but not promoted yet. And now they start
> thinking JavFX (and probably thus Java on desktop not even speaking about
> mobile platforms) won't make it and it's getting hard to convince them that
> JavaFX is actually a great option.
> Now reading this mail of yours, this article really seems to make waves.
> -Florian
> Am Montag, 30. November 2015, 17.13:10 schrieb Dirk @ Google:
>> Hi there,
>> there has been quite a shake-up in the JavaFX community last week when Shay
>> Almog (Codename One) first responded to a blog of mine
>> (dlemmermann.wordpress.com) with a lot of negative comments regarding
>> JavaFX and its future. He then followed up with a long blog asking the
>> question „Should Oracle Spring-Clean JavaFX“
>> (https://www.codenameone.com/blog/should-oracle-spring-clean-javafx.html
>> <https://www.codenameone.com/blog/should-oracle-spring-clean-javafx.html>).
>> I do understand that it is often a good strategy to not comment on stuff
>> like this because commenting would just draw attention to it, but we have
>> now reached the point where potential customers are questioning the
>> sustainability of a JavaFX-based solution. They are now wondering if JavaFX
>> will still be around in a few years. In my specific case the customer
>> demands an answer from me and my partners within the next week, and if not
>> convincing they will go with something / someone else. We will loose a
>> contract worth around one million dollars because of one blog written by
>> Shay with no follow-up from Oracle.
>> What is needed is an official statement from Oracle / Oracle employees /
>> JavaFX development team, saying that Oracle is still committed to JavaFX
>> and that it will still be around for a while. Can somebody please do that?
>> Dirk

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