Adding new Adoption Group Members

Martijn Verburg martijnverburg at
Thu Jan 29 18:50:44 UTC 2015

Hi Dalibor,

Sounds good - lets have a chat about some possible project ideas at FOSDEM.


On 29 January 2015 at 18:40, dalibor topic <dalibor.topic at> wrote:

> With roughly one year since the creation of this Group behind us, it's
> almost about the first time that we can begin to consider adding new Group
> Members. As the guidelines for adding new Group Members say, [0]
>  "As a rough guide, a Contributor should be regularly active in a Group or
> its sponsored Projects for at least a year before being nominated to be a
> Group Member."
> So the first question to answer is: What does being active mean?
> We had a discussion of what being active means when we started to document
> this Group's activities for the purpose of compiling its Quarterly Reports.
> [1] In short, being active means one or more of
> a) editing the Group's wiki
> b) actively participating in conversations on the Group's mailing lists
> c) being active in the Group's sponsored Projects
> For any Group, a) is not going to be an interesting activity to consider
> when evaluating the activity of potential new Group Members, as only Group
> Members can edit a Group's wiki.
> In the case of the Adoption Group, c) is not interesting for this purpose
> either, as this Group does not sponsor any Projects (so far). [2]
> That leaves b) as the criterion to apply. There is only one mailing list
> to consider: this one. So that's actually rather easy.
> The next question is, what constitutes regular activity?
> Or, in the case of the mailing lists, how often should a Contributor
> actively participate in conversations to be considered regularly active in
> the Group?
> This Group's Quarterly Reports give us a rough idea about the level of
> activity on the mailing lists - they range from 128 mails in the first
> quarter of 2014 to 136 in the last. Roughly speaking, that's about 1-1.5
> mails per day.
> The number of Participants (excluding current Group Members) actively
> taking part in this Group's discussions has ranged from 10 in the first
> quarter of 2014 to 14 in the last.
> One would expect a regularly active Participant desiring to become a Group
> Member to beat the average, so they should be active on the list at least
> every 10-21 days. In other words, they'd have sent at least 2-3 e-mails to
> the list every month for a year, related to the Group's mission &
> activities.
> So, let's look at the data from the mailing list archives to see if we
> have any potential candidates with 2, or 3 regular postings to their belt:
> For January 2015 (so far [3]), Chris (3 posts) and Balchandra (6) would
> meet the minimal bar. For December, Ben (5) & Balchandra (8) would meet it.
> For November, it would be Patrick (8) & Balchandra (6). And so on.
> What one can see from the data is that activity is not something most
> Participants sustain on a regular basis.
> To some degree, that is to be expected in open source communities in
> general, and an Adoption Group in particular, which acts as a pass-through
> channel for new Participants to other Projects.
> What the data suggests though, is that there won't be very many new
> candidates for Group Members for a while. Rather than lowering the
> standards of what constitutes regular activity in the Adoption Group, I'd
> suggest drawing a line at what constitutes 'minimal viable activity' on the
> mailing lists for Contributors who wish to become this Group's Members, and
> writing it down on the wiki.
> cheers,
> dalibor topic
> [0]
> [1]
> 2014-February/000065.html
> [2]
> [3]
> 2015-January/author.html#start
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