Community-Help for the core-team in deadline-times

Martijn Verburg martijnverburg at
Tue Nov 24 08:59:35 UTC 2015

Hi Dalibor,

So we have a Chicken and Egg problem in that case.  New Contributors fall
by the wayside because their patches are not reviewed (and subsequently
rejected or accepted/merged) in a timely manner.  This stops them from
gaining the sort of project experience required to themselves help out with
this process.

If tracking patches is deemed to be a bad idea, what do you suggest we can
do to improve this situation?


On 23 November 2015 at 21:03, dalibor topic <dalibor.topic at>

> On 20.11.2015 14:57, Martijn Verburg wrote:
>> support.  What this group could perhaps do is split up the mailing lists
>> and have at least one of us watching all of the mailing list for new
>> contributors and making sure that their contributions don't get
>> lost/ignored.
> The most useful way to do that is to be sufficiently actively involved in
> a sufficient Project Role and technically educated in the development of
> the Project to be able to participate in the review & shepherding of
> incoming contributions directly.
> Without that, you would basically end up with a bunch of people not doing
> the actual work monitoring those who do.
> That's rarely very appreciated, and even less useful than it sounds, as
> there could be any reason why two minds don't meet. Most of those reasons
> are perfectly valid, and don't have to be explained or excused publicly.
> We could set up a simple table in the Wiki with name vs mailing list and
>> have the results of the monitoring reported back here
> The trouble with coming up with surveillance infrastructure is that
> typically people being singled out for surveillance have not consented to
> it.
> In other words, don't create wiki pages that track what other people do,
> whether they are at a conference, or on vacation, submitted a patch and
> didn't reply or get a reply for $PERIOD, and so on.
> That would not be helpful.
> cheers,
> dalibor topic
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