[Fwd: Please review fix for 6819847 [Re: [Fwd: Problems with building jmx for OpenJDK.]]]

Andrew John Hughes gnu_andrew at member.fsf.org
Tue Mar 31 15:19:32 UTC 2009

2009/3/31 Tim Bell <Tim.Bell at sun.com>:
>>> Kelly O'Hair wrote:
>>>> I didn't think openjdk7 could build without binary plugs.
>>>> But I've been a bit disconnected from the jdk work lately.
> Andrew John Hughes wrote:
>> I didn't either.  The last build I tried using the hotspot-comp tree
>> (to test a patch for twisti) needed pointing at some binary plugs (I
>> use the fake IcedTea ones).  And I haven't seen it in any of the
>> recent change lists for 7
>> (http://download.java.net/jdk7/changes/jdk7-b50.html,
>> http://download.java.net/jdk7/changes/jdk7-b51.html)
> Correct, it wouldn't be in there yet.


ERROR: Can't locate pre-built libraries.
       Please check your access to
       and/or check your value of ALT_BINARY_PLUGS_PATH.

Good to know it is in the queue though, as I was going to start
porting it over myself.

I was confused because this was suggested as a solution to an issue
with the binary plugs not working, but it doesn't seem to really be
'in the wild' yet.

>>> [... snip ...]
>>>> I think I had on my list of things to do:
>>>>  * Change binary plugs default for openjdk6 to 'not use them'
>>>>  * Make sure openjdk7 builds without binary plugs
>>> Please take a look at this fix:
>>>  http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~tbell/6819847/
>>> This implements Kelly's wish "Change binary plugs default for openjdk6
>>> to 'not use them'".  Well - for OpenJDK7, it does.  I'll have to check,
>>> but I think OpenJDK6 is already doing this.
>> I think Dalibor committed this change to 6.  It's a lot less
>> controversial there, as the option has been available a long time,
>> just not the default.
>>> This builds OK with OPENJDK=true and:
>> Is this the default? I assume OPENJDK=false is only useful inside Sun.
> Yes, that is correct.  Since the settings are possible I went ahead and
> tested to make sure they work.  If the build discovers only the open part of
> the forest then it will effectively be an OPENJDK=TRUE build.

Confirmed.  I get OPENJDK=true without specifying it explicitly.

>>> 1) No setting for IMPORT_BINARY_PLUGS at all.  This works, and it
>>> did NOT import anything.  I expect the Linux distros build this way.
>>>  2009-03-31-003747.tbell.6819847
>> Well the distros don't build 7 as far as I know, and I believe the
>> last OpenJDK6 build drop still used by IcedTea6 (the one before the
>> switch to hg) still uses fake plugs.  Whether it needs to or not is
>> another matter; I think it does because the default for b14 is to
>> import them (IMPORT_BINARY_PLUGS=true) and we don't set
>> IMPORT_BINARY_PLUGS. I never understood why IMPORT_BINARY_PLUGS was
>> defaulted to true for 6, as the audience building 'raw' OpenJDK6 (i.e.
>> not via IcedTea6) who want SNMP must be negligible enough to warrant
>> not being the default.
> This default setting could go back to earlier days when there was a lot more
> in the binary plugs.

That's true for 7, but I believe it was only introduced when we were
already down to just SNMP.  But I may have misremembered.

>>> 2) IMPORT_BINARY_PLUGS=false  [Same as 1) above]
>>>  2009-03-31-002722.tbell.6819847
>>> 3) IMPORT_BINARY_PLUGS=true   [PLUG IMPORT successful]
>>>  2009-03-31-020718.tbell.6819847
>>> 4) Nothing set  [nothing imported]
>>>  2009-03-31-045710.tbell.6819847
>> I'm guessing all these are too recent to be in a build drop yet.
> Yes.  This work is from yesterday/last night.
>>> JPRT job-IDs are included here so I could keep track and make sure I
>>> looked at the log files.
>>> One question - if the user goes to the trouble to set any of
>>> (See the comments in jdk/make/common/Defs.gmk starting at line 127),
>>> should we assume they must really, really want the binary plugs and
>>> force IMPORT_BINARY_PLUGS=true?  Or have them set it as well?
>> I think that's a fair assumption, as long as you can be sure they did
>> set it and it didn't default to something.
> OK, thanks.  I already have other feedback that we should do this to
> preserve the current build behavior.
>>> I am thinking we shouldn't do this automatically.  I notice in the logs
>>> that JPRT is setting these even when IMPORT_BINARY_PLUGS=false.
> Then we may need to change this in JPRT.  I am still checking on that.
> Thanks for the feedback.
> Tim

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