New build system problems

Martin Buchholz martinrb at
Tue Mar 5 23:17:03 UTC 2013

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 2:36 PM, David Holmes <david.holmes at>wrote:

> Sorry but that is completely unacceptable. If you are providing changes
> that obviously impact multiple platforms (ie there are platform specific
> changes) then they _must_ be tested on all platforms. If the external
> author/committer can not do that then they must work with someone in Oracle
> who can assist with JPRT runs etc.

There's always a tradeoff between agility and not breaking other folks.

IMO the right approach is to improve processes so that bad commits don't
cause other developers to lose time.  Once upon a time, I was actually the
tl gatekeeper and I implemented such a system.  Today, I see there's a
tl-gate, but there's close to zero testing between submission to tl-gate
and "promotion" to tl-proper.  In the system I implemented, there was a
full build/test cycle in between.

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