Opensource plugin&webstart - when?

Clemens Eisserer linuxhippy at
Wed Aug 26 16:40:20 UTC 2009

I just can't understand the reason of holding those two components
back nore can I imagine any way how to make money out of it.

So it seems to old catch-up game continues again, with
half-"compatible" implementations arround, hurting java's reputation
and user experience.

- Clemens

2009/8/21 Andrew John Hughes <gnu_andrew at>:
> 2009/8/21 Clemens Eisserer <linuxhippy at>:
>> Hello,
>> Back in February I talked to Mark Reinhold at Fosdem about
>> open-sourcing the next generation java plugin as well as Webstart -
>> and was told to expect a release pretty soon.
>> However until now nothing has happend.
>> I have a few Webstart / deployment toolkit fixes here myself, but
>> won't contribute this as long as it remains proprietary code.
>> Whats the status of all this?
>> Thanks, Clemens
> Assuming you're referring to the proprietary Sun plugin, the last word
> on it was:
> squirrelled away on the jdk6-dev list rather than discuss.
> There is a Free implementation of the plugin and javaws in IcedTea
> which is being rapidly developed in the open.  Given the continued
> lack of commitment from Sun on releasing their plugin as part of
> OpenJDK, I think our efforts are best served by concentrating
> development on the IcedTea plugin rather than banging our collective
> heads against a brick wall.  At present, it seems more likely that
> this plugin will be upstreamed into OpenJDK (most of the copyright is
> held by Red Hat developers who have an SCA with Sun) rather than the
> Sun plugin suddenly appearing.
> I would, of course, be very happy to be proved wrong on this.
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