Ubuntu 11.10 VM including OpenJDK Build Image
hwadechandler-openjdk at yahoo.com
Thu Feb 16 20:57:56 UTC 2012
I agree. I feel like this is a major contributor to Open JDK not being
used as much; well, until now since the OS distribution license is going
away, but individually I think this type thing will still push
individual developers and small companies away. There needs to be a
central location where one can go and download various version for their
various platforms. As a developer using a product to build a solution,
myself and many others, do not want every project we use to be a big
ordeal to get going on various platforms we need to deliver solutions.
It is a simple numbers game on time.
If OpenJDK is going to be successful as other OSS projects, then this is
going to have to be a must sooner or later and preferably sooner.
The current "Download and <link>install</link>" on the front page makes
me ponder what I'm about to write.
I have heard the arguments about a JDK or a JRE being a "system"
component, and from experience, that doesn't work out so well. If I have
a particular system where I need to be able to know certain things about
my software, for instance that a bug in build xxy doesn't get introduced
in my system where I'm depending on xxx because a user runs some simple
system updates which I have to then eat in time and money figuring out
and fixing, then I want to include the main components my application is
built atop as part of my overall installer; a sub-component of my
overall software package.
Now, if it is something smaller, or certain server based applications,
then perhaps a system requirement is OK, but in most cases, not. I want
to be able to get a binary of the system for the given OS, include it in
an install, and be moving on. I don't think building the thing for the
platform needs to be part of that unless I'm specifically allocating
some time and resources to contribute back to the project, and in those
cases it is a specific part of my business processes and completely
separate from my end delivery.
Along with that, when I'm investigating technologies which to build
atop, and I'm new to those things, if I have to look here and there to
find binaries, and it takes forever to get going with my requirements
list to verify if something will work out or not, then I will often move
on to something else with which I can get up and running. Ease of entry
to the Java ecosystem needs to be kept in mind.
That's my $0.02 (2 cents), Thanks,
On 02/14/2012 08:45 AM, Donald Smith wrote:
> Personally, I think a well formed list of links to the community
> binaries makes a lot of sense.
> - Don
> On 14/02/2012 7:06 AM, Dalibor Topic wrote:
>> On 2/14/12 2:19 AM, John Yeary wrote:
>>> Let me make sure I understand, on the OpenJDK site we don't want to
>>> binaries either built by community folks, or Oracle?
>> Distributing (third party) binaries is not what OpenJDK is set up to
>> do well.
>> In the way of a broken analogy, it's a bit like the Linux kernel, and
>> source-code only kernel.org, then it is like, say, a full-fledged Linux
>> distribution, that provides binaries, caters to end users, etc. Or
>> for another example.
>>> If I have a binary, add it as an attachment to the wiki for the
>> That won't work, technically. But then, there is also a lot more work to
>> distributing any open source code then finding a spot large enough to
>> a binary.
>> dalibor topic
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