Ubuntu 11.10 VM including OpenJDK Build Image

Frans Thamura frans at meruvian.org
Fri Feb 24 02:52:42 UTC 2012

Sound discussion betwweem wade and andrew are cool.

Why dont both of u become comitee in community way.

We decide what will we do. Rather wait oracle.
On Feb 24, 2012 9:22 AM, "Wade Chandler" <hwadechandler-openjdk at yahoo.com>

> On 02/23/2012 10:56 AM, Andrew Haley wrote:
>> On 02/23/2012 01:53 PM, Wade Chandler wrote:
>>> Forgot to send to list before...
>>> On 02/23/2012 05:09 AM, Andrew Haley wrote:
>>>> On 02/23/2012 04:09 AM, Wade Chandler wrote:
>>>>> Perhaps this is being done for Fedora. I was under the impression
>>>>> from the recent push, or at least perceived push, from Oracle to get
>>>>> folks using the OpenJDK and not their builds distributed within an
>>>>> operating system
>>>> I don't understand.  OpenJDK is distributed within an OS.  Where did
>>>> they say this?
>>>>  Here I'm specifically referring to the EOL of the OS bundle license for
>>> the Sun/Oracle distributed runtimes. For instance, on Ubuntu now, one
>>> needs to go get the Oracle version specifically from them versus it
>>> being able to be installed from the Ubuntu software center.
>> You're not really explaining this very well.  Why would the EOL of
>> JDK 6 have any bearing on this?
>> Andrew.
> I'm not referring to an EOL of Java 6. What I'm referring to is an EOL of
> allowing operating system providers to provide Oracles JRE/JDK in operating
> systems. That forces Linux distros to distribute OpenJDK only and users to
> get Oracle JDK 7,8,etc on their own if there is to be such a thing and
> obviously depending on its price. So, if Windows computer manufacturers
> would like to distribute a JDK, it will have to be OpenJDK. If not, then
> users have to get it on their own. This has various implications for
> Applets and Web Start in my opinion considering my new perceived
> understanding of OpenJDK, TCK, and what operating systems are distributing.
> That seems to have various implications for how successful JavaFX2.0 will
> be as well. I have no idea how all this is going to turn out, just along
> for the ride, but certainly a lot to ponder right now.
> Perhaps there are other license deals in the works for Apple and Windows
> distribution and much isn't going to change, but I have a feeling it is
> from what I have read (my only window into this issue).
> Anyways, I use Ubuntu daily, and my thoughts on this come from:
> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/**2011/12/java-to-be-removed-**
> from-ubuntu-uninstalled-from-**user-machines/<http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/java-to-be-removed-from-ubuntu-uninstalled-from-user-machines/>
> https://blogs.oracle.com/**henrik/entry/moving_to_**openjdk_as_the<https://blogs.oracle.com/henrik/entry/moving_to_openjdk_as_the>
> Please admonish me and especially them if it is wrong.
> Thanks,
> Wade
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