[rfc] [cedtea-web] upated javawsman page was: Re: [rfc][icedtea-web] javaws -version flag

Jiri Vanek jvanek at redhat.com
Mon Mar 10 12:35:15 UTC 2014

On 03/08/2014 04:59 AM, Andrew Azores wrote:
> I have no idea how to write a man page, but PolicyEditor's should be quite short and simple. Good opportunity for me to learn?

Yes O:)

You can follow Omairs work - [icedtea-web] RFC: man page for itweb-settings

Your is just much  simpler. Please don't forge to highlit policytool (as it have quite good manpage) at least as see also (but maybe in description is worthy too)

> Thanks,
> Andrew A
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jiri Vanek"<jvanek at redhat.com>
> To: "Omair Majid"<omajid at redhat.com>
> Cc: "Andrew Azores"<aazores at redhat.com>, "IcedTea"<distro-pkg-dev at openjdk.java.net>
> Sent: Friday, March 7, 2014 5:44:41 AM
> Subject: [rfc] [cedtea-web] upated javawsman page was: Re: [rfc][icedtea-web] javaws -version flag
> Some updates to javaws man page.. Is there any voulenteer for icedtea-web, policyeditor and
> itw-settings ? :))
> J.
> On 03/06/2014 07:00 PM, Omair Majid wrote:
>> * Jiri Vanek<jvanek at redhat.com>  [2014-03-06 12:30]:
>>> No. You misunderstood me completely. The will to maintain them is
>>> missing. I 100% agree that they are necessary.
>> Ah, well that's a different matter. I will try and help.
>>> On 03/06/2014 05:52 PM, Omair Majid wrote:
>>>> * Jiri Vanek<jvanek at redhat.com>   [2014-03-06 11:29]:
>>>>>    First half of previous 8 months I was ignoring them willingly,
>>>>>    because I hoped to have the generated ones prepared for 1.5.
>>>> I don't know if generated ones are the magic bullet you think they are.
>>>> Either way you have to write the documentation. And some parts of the
>>>> documentation don't belong in code. Still, generated or not, we need
>>>> some place where users can find documentation.
>>> 100% yes, and the man pages are th way to go.
>>> They may be the magic bullet if I fulfil my idea.
>> Fair enough. My original suggestion was: let's add a tiny fix (document
>> -version) while we wait for the bigger (and better) fix (the
>> auto-generated man pages).
>>> Right. Right now there is only javaws.1 Imho two more are misisng. And
>>> manpage for "package name" is good recomandation.
>> I am not so sure. `man man` says:
>> "man is the system's manual pager. Each page argument given to man is
>> normally the name of a program, utility or function"
>> `javaws` qualifies as a program, but does icedtea-web?
>> Isn't a README the more appropriate place for this? Do you know of
>> examples where there is a man page for a package where package name is
>> different from the binary name?
>> Any way, if you want to add more documentation and maintain it, that's
>> perfectly fine with me :)
>>> It can be jsut see javaws + expalinig alternatives, or something more
>>> general. Also it may be spec patch only.
>> *If* we decide that this it not very useful upstream, maybe we should
>> encourage downstream to follow?
>>>>> , itw-settings manpage is missing - and
>>>>> it is HUGE man page, and newly policyeditor is missing.
>>>> For self-explanatory GUIs, I am not sure we need detailed man pages.
>>>> They mostly make sense for command line programs that take lots of
>>> Self expalantory???  The itw-settings have incredible cmd line support!
>> Haha. I wrote that :)
>> I meant that it's fairly simple to document the cli bits (there's only 4
>> or so commands, right) and the GUI is self-explanatory. So the man page
>> shouldn't be that large.
>> Thanks,
>> Omair

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