RFR (S) 8197844: JVMTI GetLoadedClasses should use the Access API

coleen.phillimore at oracle.com coleen.phillimore at oracle.com
Tue Mar 20 22:25:02 UTC 2018

On 3/20/18 5:58 PM, Roman Kennke wrote:
> What for? The oop does not go anywhere. Even if the closure would cross a safepoint (which would be bad in itself), what good would it so? This does not seem useful.

If the closure safepointed twice (?), it could unload the class loader.  
There isn't code to do this and also if it did, the CLDG graph's linked 
list would also be broken.  This is something we want to address with 
concurrent class unloading though.

This seems a bit neater to not throw out the oop that is loaded with the 
barrier, but having to call Thread::current isn't nice.   I'm not wedded 
to either version (except the concept).


> Roman
> Am 20. März 2018 22:49:21 MEZ schrieb coleen.phillimore at oracle.com:
>> Kim and I had some offline discussions about this and he recommended
>> that the ClassLoaderData::ensure_loader_alive function return the oop
>> to
>> handleize while the closure runs on that ClassLoaderData. This is that
>> change.
>> Tested with jvmti, runtime and jfr tests that use
>> ClassLoaderData::*classes/modules/package iterations.
>> http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~coleenp/8197844.03/webrev/index.html
>> thanks,
>> Coleen
>> On 3/19/18 7:38 PM, coleen.phillimore at oracle.com wrote:
>>> On 3/19/18 7:32 PM, Roman Kennke wrote:
>>>> The change looks good to me.
>>>> I have also verified that Shenandoah does not call into any of the
>>>> iterators that might resurrect CLDs by mistake.
>>> That's good!  Thank you for verifying this.  These iterators should
>>> now be only runtime iterators.
>>> thanks,
>>> Coleen
>>>> Thanks, Roman
>>>>> After reading my own reply and Erik's, I want to reconsider my
>> change
>>>>> for this bug.
>>>>> There are many places that iterate over ClassLoaderDataGraph, and
>> I've
>>>>> found another that is buggy in the same way that JVMTI
>> GetLoadedClasses
>>>>> should have a G1 barrier.  I've also spent more time trying to find
>> if
>>>>> other uses are buggy, with dissatisfying inconclusion.
>>>>> The safest thing to do is mark loaders that we are iterating over
>> as
>>>>> alive.  This alive barrier doesn't affect oops_do, cld_do or
>>>>> do_unloading, which are the cases that would be walked by the GC.
>> It
>>>>> also can't include verify, which I've removed from the original
>> change.
>>>>> I can't assert that the thread isn't a GC thread because
>>>>> VM_GC_HeapInspection builds a KlassInfoTable as a GC thread.
>>>>> I think a klass walk of the ClassLoaderDataGraph when done for
>>>>> profiling
>>>>> and assorted runtime code, must necessarily keep the classes alive
>>>>> during the interval between GCs.   The class can be unloaded in a
>>>>> further GC.
>>>>> open webrev at
>> http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~coleenp/8197844.02/webrev
>>>>> This is the same patch with the ensure_loader_alive removed from
>>>>> ClassLoaderDataGraph::verify.
>>>>> thanks,
>>>>> Coleen
>>>>> On 3/16/18 11:29 AM, Erik Österlund wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Coleen,
>>>>>> I for one would like to see your version of the fix, plus some
>>>>>> suitable assert to catch bad use of these APIs.
>>>>>> The motivation is that it seems unfortunate to expose APIs for
>> getting
>>>>>> Metadata that when retrieved is unstable and unsafe to use unless
>> you
>>>>>> have deep knowledge about GC races and class unloading, and hope
>> all
>>>>>> callsites know that they can't just use the things they retrieved
>>>>>> because they are dangerously explosive. The only problem with the
>> more
>>>>>> conservative API is if the GC itself calls into the code and
>>>>>> accidentally keeps everything alive preventing class unloading.
>> But I
>>>>>> think a suitable assert could catch that.
>>>>>> I'm not 100% sure what the assert condition should be. But I'm
>>>>>> thinking something along the lines of:
>>>>>> Thread::current()->is_Java_thread() ||
>>>>>> Thread::current()->is_VM_thread() &&
>>>>>> (!SafepointSynchronize::is_at_safepoint() ||
>> !HeapLock->is_locked())
>>>>>> Other suggestions for a good condition are welcome - it is just an
>>>>>> example that may or may not work.
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> /Erik
>>>>>> On 2018-03-16 16:01, coleen.phillimore at oracle.com wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Roman, thank you for your comments.
>>>>>>> On 3/15/18 9:46 AM, Roman Kennke wrote:
>>>>>>>> Am 14.03.2018 um 18:37 schrieb coleen.phillimore at oracle.com:
>>>>>>>>> Summary: Make sure the holder of a class loader is accessed
>> during
>>>>>>>>> iteration of CLDG
>>>>>>>>> This is where we should have put the GC barrier.  This can be
>>>>>>>>> cleaned
>>>>>>>>> somewhat when we have a WeakHandle holder in the
>>>>>>>>> ClassLoaderData, then
>>>>>>>>> the code in ensure_loader_alive() becomes _holder.resolve();
>>>>>>>>> Tested with tier1-5.
>>>>>>>>> open webrev at
>>>>>>>>> http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~coleenp/8197844.01/webrev
>>>>>>>>> bug link https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8197844
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Coleen
>>>>>>>> I am not sure at all that this wouldn't have adverse effects.
>>>>>>>> Suppose a
>>>>>>>> GC is iterating all CLDs and marks all of them alive, we'd
>> probably
>>>>>>>> never unload it? I probably wouldn't do the keep-alive stuff
>>>>>>>> wholesale
>>>>>>>> in the iterator methods.
>>>>>>>> I've made (and later withdraw) a (IMO) more straightforward
>> patch to
>>>>>>>> address the same:
>>>>>>>> http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~rkennke/8199612/webrev.00/
>>>>>>>> It has the advantage that it doesn't to a bogus load, just to
>> keep
>>>>>>>> something alive. It loads the mirror and at the same time
>>>>>>>> communicates
>>>>>>>> the GC to keep it alive. Maybe better?
>>>>>>> So when I made this change, I was being conservative. Anytime we
>>>>>>> iterate over the CLDG, and take out oops to put somewhere else,
>> we
>>>>>>> need to mark that the CLD needs to stay alive for that GC, until
>> the
>>>>>>> somewhere else is walked.  We also have to worry about these
>> classes
>>>>>>> being unloaded if we are still holding metadata after walking the
>>>>>>> CLDG.
>>>>>>> I've gone through all the CLDG::classes_do, loaded_classes_do,
>>>>>>> dictionary_all_entries_do, methods_do, modules_do and packages_do
>> at
>>>>>>> least 100 times.  (also oops_do variants and cld_do). All these
>>>>>>> calls do something with metadata, and it appears that these
>> places
>>>>>>> are unaffected by GC or class unloading, except the instance in
>>>>>>> jvmtiGetLoadedClasses that Poonam found.
>>>>>>> Also if the closure or function passed to the CLDG iterator
>> functions
>>>>>>> stop for a safepoint and unload, the walk will be broken. I
>> didn't
>>>>>>> find any instances of this in the code on my 100 traversals.  My
>>>>>>> change is trying to make it so I don't have to do this analysis
>>>>>>> anymore.
>>>>>>> Poonams, Erik's change and your change puts the responsibility on
>> the
>>>>>>> caller of ClassLoaderDataGraph to keep the class alive that it is
>>>>>>> processing through the walk.   I think I can accept that as a
>> fix,
>>>>>>> and withdraw mine, since we seem to have no instances of bugs in
>>>>>>> other walks.  If it turns out to be something that becomes buggy,
>> I
>>>>>>> will suggest my fix again as an alternative.
>>>>>>> This fix doesn't affect the walks done during GC.  As of this
>>>>>>> morning, there are no KlassClosures in GC anymore.   Your concern
>> is
>>>>>>> well placed though because it could help us introduce bugs which
>>>>>>> could negatively affect class unloading.
>>>>>>> So on the balance, there's risk in both versions of the fix, so
>> I'll
>>>>>>> withdraw mine.  I think the best fix is yours:
>> http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~rkennke/8199612/webrev.00/src/hotspot/share/prims/jvmtiGetLoadedClasses.cpp.udiff.html
>>>>>>> with Erik's function java_mirror_phantom() that does the
>>>>>>> RootAccess load.
>> http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~eosterlund/8197844/webrev.00/src/hotspot/share/oops/klass.cpp.udiff.html
>>>>>>> but not have it mark the class_loader, only do below.
>>>>>>> +oop Klass::java_mirror_phantom() {
>>>>>>> + // Loading the klass_holder as a phantom oop ref keeps the
>> class
>>>>>>> alive.
>>>>>>> + // After the holder has been kept alive, it is safe to return
>> the
>>>>>>> mirror.
>>>>>>> + oop mirror =
>> RootAccess<ON_PHANTOM_OOP_REF>::oop_load(k->java_mirror_handle().ptr_raw());
>>>>>>> + return mirror;
>>>>>>> +}
>>>>>>> I didn't like that Klass was a friend of ClassLoaderData and
>> could
>>>>>>> get to the class_loader field (in case I move it).
>>>>>>> Your change here is covered by Kim's work to accessorize jni.
>> http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~rkennke/8199612/webrev.00/src/hotspot/share/runtime/jniHandles.cpp.udiff.html
>>>>>>> So I withdraw and I'll unassign myself and you and/or Erik can
>> take
>>>>>>> this bug back again.
>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>> Coleen
>>>>>>>> Roman

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