Jeff Martin jeff at
Mon Feb 13 07:51:49 PST 2012

+1 on deployment. Although I've had good experience shipping a developer tool with Java Web Start, I think when you look at all the Java blogs out there and see how few embed running examples of their code, it tells you something about Java's flaw as a web application platform. The FXML discussion might contain a key to this: within a year, will 1000 savvy graphics designers embed some token JavaFX into their web sites?

I think the problem with Sun was that they didn't eat enough of their own dog food. Apple is a great example of this. If Oracle believes in JavaFX, they need to decide on a couple categories of apps and prove to everyone that it is viable. This process would improve JavaFX immensely.

That, and announce an iOS/Android strategy. :-)


On Feb 12, 2012, at 11:46 PM, Jeff McDonald wrote:

> Deployment is so important that I'd hope that it is at the top of the list.
> For me, I've always wanted to be able to push out a single double clickable
> app. No Java installs necessary. No Java version worries. As a developer I
> want full control of handling the versioning dependencies in my apps
> (co-bundling the JRE and all other libs and resources). I like it in part
> because I can take responsibility for what I ship. Most people prefer
> double clickable apps that require a one step install.
> <… deleted ...>

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