JFX build and deployment - squeaking wheel

John Smith John_Smith at symantec.com
Mon Nov 5 14:32:40 PST 2012

> Is this what the new Windows Store uses as well?

No, Windows Store does not use MSI, it uses appx files and Open Packaging Conventions.

There is no installer, updater or uninstaller for the package, just some metadata which a store client can use to install, update or uninstall a component.
appx is just like a zip file with a manifest, similar to a jar file.

Those interested, can see here for info: 
  http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/hh464929.aspx App packages and deployment (Windows Store apps)
  http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/hh446767.aspx App packager (MakeAppx.exe) - kind of the Windows Store equivalent of javafxpackager.exe
  http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/hh446593%28v=vs.85%29.aspx Packaging, deployment, and query of Windows Store apps

-----Original Message-----
From: openjfx-dev-bounces at openjdk.java.net [mailto:openjfx-dev-bounces at openjdk.java.net] On Behalf Of Richard Bair
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 12:58 PM
To: Josh Marinacci
Cc: openjfx-dev at openjdk.java.net
Subject: Re: JFX build and deployment - squeaking wheel

I'm not sure, to be honest.

On Nov 3, 2012, at 11:08 AM, Josh Marinacci <joshua at marinacci.org> wrote:

> Interesting.  Is this what the new Windows Store uses as well?
> --
> Josh Marinacci
> joshondesign.com
> On Saturday, November 3, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Scott Palmer wrote:
>> Right. MSI is sort of an official MicroSoft Installer format. The 
>> .msi file is read by the built-in Windows installer APIs. Sort of 
>> like how .pkg is handled natively by OS X, and .rpm and .deb are 
>> handled natively by Linux distros. Exe installers could be anything, 
>> they just aren't the same. though often they are special 
>> bootstrappers tacked on to one or more MSI databases. MSI is a 
>> table-based description of the stuff to install. (It isn't 
>> particularly good mind you, it's just well supported by the Windows 
>> OS.)
>> Scott
>> On 2012-11-03, at 12:10 PM, Joshua Marinacci <joshua at marinacci.org> wrote:
>>> Ah. So an MSI is not just another installer format? It has special 
>>> properties make it different than NSIS?
>>> Most likely sent from Planet Earth
>>> On Nov 3, 2012, at 6:45 AM, Richard Bair <richard.bair at oracle.com> wrote:
>>>>> I just tried using the AppBundler (the other one from Java.net) to create a Mac bundle with an embedded JRE and it worked pretty well. For Windows is an MSI file a requirement or could some other installer system work? I just found NSIS which can generate Windows installers from linux.
>>>> The reason MSI is important is that for many large sites with IT departments, they don't want to have to go around from machine to machine manually installing software and, they don't trust users to be able to download and install software themselves (either by policy or by some means of enforcement). Giving the IT department an MSI allows them to remotely push updates / software onto the correct users machines according to whatever policies they've crafted in their business. Or remove the software when the time comes.
>>>> Richard

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