What Scene Builder needs YESTERDAY!

Jeff Martin jeff at reportmill.com
Fri Nov 14 14:24:41 UTC 2014

I think this was true back when Java was a contender for browser graphics. It’s clear now that Java in the browser, and even Flash, are going away. Now I think the best opportunity for JavaFX is for rich, cross-platform, non-browser apps - which really means desktop enterprise apps. Very limiting - until JavaFX has a mobile story. For this I think JavaFX needs an application like Microsoft Access or Oracle ADF as opposed to a FlashDesigner app (though that wouldn’t hurt).

Having a top-teir mobile story is really the only hope to have JavaFX go mainstream. It would be nice if Oracle would buy RoboVM. :-)


On Nov 13, 2014, at 9:34 PM, Felix Bembrick <felix.bembrick at gmail.com> wrote:

> Java applets were the first "programs" to run inside a web browser and for
> a (little) while they were flavour of the month.
> But then along came Flash which had several advantages such as faster load
> times, consistent loads and antialiased fonts/graphics and soon completely
> surpassed applets.
> But the MAIN reason why Flash was initially so successful and went on for
> years and years of domination is that the Flash tools had an
> Animation/Timeline Editor pretty much from the beginning.  This enabled
> even a novice to drag images around and draw the path they wanted them to
> move along, add all sorts of bouncing effects and sounds and the result was
> the birth of the online greeting card company.
> But Flash soon went on to be so much more.  As the Adobe tools improved, so
> did the SWFs and soon entire websites were written in Flash.
> Meanwhile, applet programmers had absolutely nothing remotely similar and
> had to try (and I stress try) to tediously hand code any animations and
> transitions and effects and I don't think it ever worked.
> Fast forward 15-20 years and now we have JavaFX which doesn't need to run
> in the browser, has even more features than Flash, uses hardware
> acceleration for superior performance, has a wide range of built-in
> animations, transitions and effects but STILL we have to hand code any
> animation/transitions.
> This is INCREDIBLY inefficient and unless Scene Builder incorporates a
> powerful, sophisticated animation/transition and effect editor VERY, VERY
> SOON I fear that the advanced graphics features are never going to be used
> to their full potential (much to the detriment of JavaFX itself).
> Does anyone know if one is in the pipeline?  I see this as one of the most
> vital features for the JavaFX ecosystem to achieve more penetration and,
> eventually, survive.
> Felix

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