What Scene Builder needs YESTERDAY!
ngalarneau at ABINITIO.COM
ngalarneau at ABINITIO.COM
Fri Nov 14 18:48:13 UTC 2014
I think there is an opportunity for JavaFX to replace enterprise Flex
apps. How big that opportunity is, I couldn't say.
It would be great if, when the 64-bit ARM port is finished, Oracle
offered a "64-bit ARM with JavaFX on iOS & Android" offering.
1 - https://blogs.oracle.com/henrik/entry/oracle_jdk_on_64_bit
From: Jeff Martin <jeff at reportmill.com>
To: Felix Bembrick <felix.bembrick at gmail.com>,
Cc: "openjfx-dev at openjdk.java.net List" <openjfx-dev at openjdk.java.net>
Date: 11/14/2014 09:25 AM
Subject: Re: What Scene Builder needs YESTERDAY!
Sent by: "openjfx-dev" <openjfx-dev-bounces at openjdk.java.net>
I think this was true back when Java was a contender for browser graphics.
It’s clear now that Java in the browser, and even Flash, are going away.
Now I think the best opportunity for JavaFX is for rich, cross-platform,
non-browser apps - which really means desktop enterprise apps. Very
limiting - until JavaFX has a mobile story. For this I think JavaFX needs
an application like Microsoft Access or Oracle ADF as opposed to a
FlashDesigner app (though that wouldn’t hurt).
Having a top-teir mobile story is really the only hope to have JavaFX go
mainstream. It would be nice if Oracle would buy RoboVM. :-)
On Nov 13, 2014, at 9:34 PM, Felix Bembrick <felix.bembrick at gmail.com>
> Java applets were the first "programs" to run inside a web browser and
> a (little) while they were flavour of the month.
> But then along came Flash which had several advantages such as faster
> times, consistent loads and antialiased fonts/graphics and soon
> surpassed applets.
> But the MAIN reason why Flash was initially so successful and went on
> years and years of domination is that the Flash tools had an
> Animation/Timeline Editor pretty much from the beginning. This enabled
> even a novice to drag images around and draw the path they wanted them
> move along, add all sorts of bouncing effects and sounds and the result
> the birth of the online greeting card company.
> But Flash soon went on to be so much more. As the Adobe tools improved,
> did the SWFs and soon entire websites were written in Flash.
> Meanwhile, applet programmers had absolutely nothing remotely similar
> had to try (and I stress try) to tediously hand code any animations and
> transitions and effects and I don't think it ever worked.
> Fast forward 15-20 years and now we have JavaFX which doesn't need to
> in the browser, has even more features than Flash, uses hardware
> acceleration for superior performance, has a wide range of built-in
> animations, transitions and effects but STILL we have to hand code any
> This is INCREDIBLY inefficient and unless Scene Builder incorporates a
> powerful, sophisticated animation/transition and effect editor VERY,
> SOON I fear that the advanced graphics features are never going to be
> to their full potential (much to the detriment of JavaFX itself).
> Does anyone know if one is in the pipeline? I see this as one of the
> vital features for the JavaFX ecosystem to achieve more penetration and,
> eventually, survive.
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