Building Scene Builder

Sven Reimers sven.reimers at
Wed May 27 17:12:46 UTC 2015

So,  is this a call for community and Gradle experts please helps us?

We are able (and want) to upgrade to a newer gradle version?

We want to share the whole pile of dirty gradle scripts to get you started?

Sounds interesting to me...

Am 27.05.2015 18:48 schrieb "David Hill" <David.Hill at>:

> On 5/27/15, 12:08 PM, Scott Palmer wrote:
>> On May 27, 2015, at 10:04 AM, David Hill<David.Hill at>  wrote:
>>> On 5/24/15, 10:56 AM, Scott Palmer wrote:
>>>> Where can I find the instructions for building Scene Builder from
>>>> source?
>>>> I ran Ant in the apps/scenebuilder folder and it produced
>>>> SceneBuilderApp.jar in the 'SceneBuilderApp/dist' folder.  But where's
>>>> the
>>>> rest of it?  It looks like the javapackager part does run
>>>> automatically, so
>>>> I don't have a native executable with a nice icon and all those
>>>> finishing
>>>> touches that make it a "real" app.
>>> I am in the process of adding a "run" command to the ant script. We do
>>> not have plans at the moment to add a packaging step.
>> What happened to the original packaging step?  The Oracle download is a
>> packaged app, was it a manual step or something?  I can’t even find the
>> application icon in the source.
>>  Our internal build has 2 parts - OpenJFX and the "closed" stuff. The
> "closed" stuff has a lot of legacy steps that we have not had the time or
> inclination to move to the OpenJFX side. (after all, working with a complex
> chunk of delicate gradle/ant code for a long time tends to make your eyes
> bleed).
> But occasionally we get some motivation and we move another bit of
> functionality over. I did ask our packager guy if he could sketch out how
> to do this standalone, so it might happen.
>> I did notice the build output print a "jfx-deployment:" step, but I guess
>>>> that is something else. I haven't used Ant in years, so I'm a little
>>>> rusty.  I was actually surprised that there wasn't a Gradle script in
>>>> the
>>>> apps/SceneBuilder folder.  I thought perhaps the apps are just using the
>>>> default NetBeans project format.  I then noticed when loading the
>>>> project
>>>> in NetBeans that I didn't get the little "FX" decal on the coffee cup
>>>> icon,
>>>> so it isn't a NetBean "JavaFX" project.
>>> When I added in the building of the apps in the overall tree, I was
>>> constrained by several things that gradle does not (or did not) play nicely
>>> with.
>>> We wanted to treat most of the items as independent sub projects, and at
>>> least some of them have ant scripts that needed to be included in the
>>> samples bundles.
>>> To shorten the story, after a long while of tinkering, I found that for
>>> our purposes, ant worked better for us. Gradle imports the ant projects,
>>> and allows us to call into them.
>> Fair enough, there’s only so much tinkering one can take, I’ve been
>> through a fair bit of Gradle tinkering myself.
>> (My hope is that one day OpenJDK + OpenJFX will build simply with ‘grade
>> build', using Gradle’s support for native builds.  Especially on Windows
>> where it would simplify things a lot if you can avoid dependencies on
>> Cygwin or MinGW.  Gradle’s native support is still incubating so it is a
>> bit early to go there, but I’ve used it recently for some Java +JNI
>> projects on Linux, Mac, and Windows (with Visual Studio, not GCC) and it
>> actually worked quite well.)
> We switched to gradle early on after a long time with a big pile'o ant
> scripts. Major rework for that. We were limited by the gradle versions we
> could get at the time. Some choices like what we could do in the apps dir
> were limited by that. More major rework when we moved as much as we could
> to OpenJFX. Now, if we had a dedicated build engineer we might be able to
> rebuild our current gradle to use the new features. But as we only have
> part time on about 3 guys willing to dive into that build mess that each
> have a huge pile 'o bugs... :-)
> --
> David Hill<David.Hill at>
> Java Embedded Development
> "A man's feet should be planted in his country, but his eyes should survey
> the world."
> -- George Santayana (1863 - 1952)

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