Scene graph performance

Felix Bembrick felix.bembrick at
Thu Jul 21 21:09:44 UTC 2016

Yes, well I think this the problem:

1) Going on history, it would be a best case scenario for Java 10 to be released in 2020 (but more likely 2021).

2) With JavaFX, we are already "behind the game" (pun intended).

3) JavaFX itself has evolved much slower than its competitors.

4) Technology in general will have moved ahead by massive leaps by 2021 (including our competitors).

5) If the *first* optimised JavaFX scene graph is not released until 2021, I genuinely fear that not only would "the ship have sailed" but, it would actually be way over the horizon and completely out of sight.


> On 22 Jul 2016, at 06:51, dalibor topic <dalibor.topic at> wrote:
> There is no JDK 10 Project in OpenJDK yet, so there has been no proposed schedule for it yet.
> cheers,
> dalibor topic
>> On 21.07.2016 20:51, Felix Bembrick wrote:
>> What is a "ball park" figure (i.e. around the 6-9 month granularity if possible) for the the release date for JDK 10?
>>> On 22 Jul 2016, at 04:42, Kevin Rushforth <kevin.rushforth at> wrote:
>>> Oh, I was agreeing with the analysis of what *would* need to be done. I am not saying that I think it *should* be done, given resources other priorities, etc. Having said that, as I mentioned in an earlier post a month or so ago, we will be collecting ideas for possible JDK 10 features once JDK 9 is finished. Perhaps this could go into the bucket of things to consider, but it isn't something I would think would be high on the list....compared to, say, WebGL, some sort of interop with native rendering, updated graphics pipelines (we're current stuck on DX 9 and GL 2), public API for UI Controls Behaviors, etc.
>>> -- Kevin
>>> Felix Bembrick wrote:
>>>> Well, I'm putting my hand up for this.
>>>> Kevin, would you like to discuss this with me on or offline?
>>>> Felix
>>>> P.S. Thanks Markus for your insight!
>>>>> On 22 Jul 2016, at 04:22, Kevin Rushforth <kevin.rushforth at> wrote:
>>>>> Yep.

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