Is JavaFX going to truly be a community project?

Pedro Duque Vieira pedro.duquevieira at
Tue Sep 4 00:07:33 UTC 2018

.. my point is such a project backed by only one company is possibly not
enough. Unless that company is Microsoft, Google, Facebook or even Oracle.
Xamarin and React Native, both cross platform frameworks, are more popular
than JavaFX and are each owned by Microsoft and Facebook, respectively.
My thinking is that we need more developers working on JavaFX (JavaFX
framework, JavaFX third party libraries) than are currently available.

And that the way JavaFX is currently setup doesn't probably invite other
companies to join in on the effort. It does not increase the feeling of
"community-ness" either. I think it's not the right message to the outside.

I agree with Mike that a website is needed but I think that's another
discussion not related to the one in this thread.

My 2 cents,

On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 12:26 AM John-Val Rose <johnvalrose at> wrote:

> Mike, can you explain what you mean by a “JavaFX website”?
> > On 3 Sep 2018, at 02:59, Mike Hearn <mike at> wrote:
> >
> > I believe you're over-thinking this Pedro. A quote from Margaret Thatcher
> > springs to mind:
> >
> > "They are casting their problems on society and who is society? There is
> no
> >> such thing! There are individual men and women and there are families
> and
> >> no government can do anything except through people and people look to
> >> themselves first."
> >
> >
> > Her point was that when someone says "the community should do this",
> that's
> > an abstraction - the community is nothing more than people, sometimes
> > individuals and sometimes organised into companies. Gluon and Oracle are
> > both clearly critical parts of the JavaFX community and that's a good
> > thing. I'm not sure why it would be off-putting. After all, JavaFX is
> based
> > on Java and the Java community is mostly made of companies too (Oracle,
> Red
> > Hat, Intel, Azul etc).
> >
> > Perhaps the JavaFX community will get more organised with time - I
> believe
> > the "community-ness" feeling would be significantly enhanced with simple
> > things like a JavaFX website. Perhaps you can contribute such a thing, as
> > it would not involve core JavaFX hacking?

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