RefObject and ValObject

John Rose john.r.rose at
Thu Apr 18 21:34:40 UTC 2019

On Apr 15, 2019, at 1:37 PM, forax at wrote:
> It's not bikeshedding, hence the "if you prefer ...",
> it's trying to explain that it's a typing issue and not a runtime class issue.

Sure.  The "if you prefer" is a subtle hint that bikeshedding is
not intended.  To avoid having your audience think that
bikeshedding has begun, a *non-subtle* hint is even more
helpful, which is why I like to use intentionally ugly
pseudo-syntax (like __NWC_BLOB__, in another thread)
during such discussions.

> ----- Mail original -----
>> De: "John Rose" <john.r.rose at>
>> À: "Remi Forax" <forax at>, "Maurizio Cimadamore" <maurizio.cimadamore at>
>> Cc: "Brian Goetz" <brian.goetz at>, "valhalla-spec-experts" <valhalla-spec-experts at>
>> Envoyé: Lundi 15 Avril 2019 20:13:50
>> Objet: Re: RefObject and ValObject
>> Avoid the Bikeshed!  Make sure that temporary or provisional
>> syntaxes look __Different from permanent ones.

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