who should use bugzilla ?

Ulf Zibis Ulf.Zibis at gmx.de
Fri May 1 03:24:49 PDT 2009

I'm talking about bugs.sun.com, as I remember right, it was even 
officially named "bug parade" in former times. I often got messages like 

We have determined that this report is a new bug and entered the bug into our
internal bug tracking system under Bug Id: 4894530.

You can monitor this bug and look for related issues on The Java Developer
Connection Bug Parade at: 


Am 01.05.2009 03:41, Brad Wetmore schrieb:
> For the "bug parade", were you talking about the bugs.sun.com "bug 
> parade" or the openjdk.java.net Bugzilla instance?
> Brad
> Ulf Zibis wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> I also think, that existing tools for externals are very poor, 
>> compared e.g. with NetBeans project.
>> Especially on the bug parade I'm missing:
>> - sophisticated search tools
>> - saving search profiles
>> - reopening bugs from external
>> - attaching resources
>> - customising the watch list, e.g. displaying the summary in the list 
>> (today only id's are displayed, and you have to open all links, to 
>> see what's inside)
>> -Ulf
>> Am 05.03.2009 05:42, Mark Reinhold schrieb:
>>>> Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 13:43:15 -0800
>>>> From: phil.race at sun.com
>>>> As you can see from the email below, there's something of
>>>> an apparent hole in the description of who should use bugzilla.
>>>> Can we clarify what's supposed to be the process
>>>> Specifically if you are external to Sun. but  have an openjdk user id
>>>> either because you are a member of an openjdk group (eg 2d, awt), OR
>>>> because you have an openjdk project, then should you in fact use
>>>> bugzilla, since you can't use the Sun internal bugster tool ?
>>> In the long run, people such as Roman who have push rights into the 
>>> JDK 6
>>> and 7 forests -- and in his case have in fact already pushed changes to
>>> at least one of those forests, after appropriate review -- should not
>>> need to use a special process set up primarily for people who 
>>> haven't yet
>>> earned such rights.
>>> Having said that, Roman is completely right to point out that he can't
>>> make effective use of bugs.sun.com on his own.  There are, moreover,
>>> other internal tools, e.g., the code-review robot, that aren't (yet)
>>> available to external developers.
>>> Until such time as more of our internal tools are externalized, and we
>>> use our Bugzilla for all bugs rather than just for contributions from
>>> non-Sun developers, I see no harm in using Bugzilla to track changes
>>> being proposed by such developers even if they do have push rights into
>>> the appropriate forests.
>>> If there's general agreement on this then I'll arrange for the warning
>>> header on bugs.openjdk.java.net to be modified accordingly.
>>> - Mark

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