bcc settings on mailing lists

Tim Bell tim.bell at gmail.com
Mon Jan 30 22:57:20 PST 2012

Hi David

> A bcc'd message from a non-member would still get trapped by the ""Post by
> non-member to a members-only list" - right? So we're only talking about
> bcc's from members.

Good point.  I'll have to trace through the sequence of checks applied
by mailman.  The 'implicit destination' check is written into the code
in Mailman/Handlers/Hold.py, but I don't know yet where this is
relative to the check for list membership.

As an example, here is a message you sent out earlier today:

>From the mailman log file:

Jan 30 16:57:30 2012 (923) jdk8-dev post from david.holmes at oracle.com
held, message-id=<4F273C6E.30801 at oracle.com>: Message has implicit

Here is the header of the held message (this is awaiting moderation by
the jdk8-dev list owners):

>From david.holmes at oracle.com  Mon Jan 30 16:57:29 2012
Return-Path: <david.holmes at oracle.com>
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Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 10:57:18 +1000
From: David Holmes <david.holmes at oracle.com>
Organization: Oracle Corporation
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To: Deepak Bhole <dbhole at redhat.com>
CC: build-dev <build-dev at openjdk.java.net>,
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Subject: Re: Patch to fix build breakage with GCC 4.7
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Hi Deepak [...]

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